Fundamental follow-up questions.
And Trump wasn’t prepared to reply.
Take their trade about coronavirus testing. Trump uttered a model of his now-familiar chorus about how testing is overrated — attributing this nonsense to unnamed “people who say.” Swan pressed for particulars.
Trump: “You understand, there are people who say you possibly can check an excessive amount of, you do know that.”
Swan: “Who says that?”
Trump: “Oh, simply learn the manuals. Learn the books.”
Swan: “Manuals? What manuals?”
Trump: “Learn the books. Learn the books.”
Swan: “What books?”
Trump moved on with out providing a direct reply. Whereas Swan could not get the President to concede that he’s making up these “manuals” and “books,” he uncovered him nonetheless.
Trump: “Proper now, I feel it is beneath management. I will let you know what –”
Swan: “How? 1,000 People are dying a day.”
Trump: “They’re dying. That is true. And you’ve got — it’s what it’s. However that does not imply we aren’t doing every thing we are able to. It is beneath management as a lot as you possibly can management it.”
Once more, Trump did not explicitly give up. However Swan’s fundamental follow-up — a “how?” and a single key statistic — pressured Trump right into a de facto give up (“It is beneath management as a lot as you possibly can management it”) and one other revealing comment, “It’s what it’s.”
Different false claims
Trump made a minimum of 17 extra false claims within the 35-minute interview. (We’re nonetheless reviewing the transcript, so the ultimate complete is perhaps increased.)
Black People: Trump claimed that he has completed “extra for the Black group than anyone with the potential exception of Abraham Lincoln, whether or not you prefer it or not.” When Swan requested him particularly if he thinks he did “greater than Lyndon Johnson, who handed the Civil Rights Act,” Trump stated sure. (We give Trump huge latitude to precise opinions, however this one is ridiculous. Lincoln, who emancipated the slaves and gained the Civil Battle, is a sure exception, not a potential exception; Johnson’s monumental Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act clearly dwarfed the affect of any of Trump’s insurance policies.)